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Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) 31We have now opened a new Build server! IP: 188.165.193.102:27016Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) 31

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    Post by DarthRevan Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:40 am

    [img]Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) Ground10[/img]

    That is the issue with the ground & i would also like help on creating "Panic Events" in L4D as the tut's on Wiki didnt much help me as im kinda helpless when following guides haha i need like step by step Crying or Very sad
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:46 am

    Just make a block the same height and then just use the carving tool to make it as slanted as you want and I don't have L4D so i can't help you on the L4D question
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    Post by DarthRevan Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:20 am

    How exactly do i use the carve tool? i found its option in tools or w/e but im not so sure how to use it and i would be grateful for your help!
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    Post by Bam Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:53 pm

    I have used it once, and once you've used it, its pretty easy. I found a tutorial on youtube sometime ago, about making circles. That taught me Smile
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:33 pm

    look up 3kilkphilip's tutorials they are good
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    Post by DarthRevan Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:38 pm

    ok well i started using it and i figured out it cuts the peices that overlap and removes them but im still having the 'small' edge drop off like in the picture but its not as bad now & im still having issues on the ground touching is there an easy way to make ramps? im having to use the transform tool or what ever it is called & then use rotate and the other items, but it seems i cant match them exactly? Question

    & Thanks for the help Very Happy
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:59 pm

    Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) 110
    Just a simple block (with my own custom texture which actually turned out well)
    Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) 210
    Then made another block!
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    Then I am now using the clipping tool to carve it downwards.
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    And now it is done!
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    Post by liam6478 Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:18 pm

    hi darthravan its me from your hldms group.too bad i couldnt help tho
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:24 pm

    liam6478 wrote:hi darthravan its me from your hldms group.too bad i couldnt help tho
    What do you mean you can't help? Help can be spread in many ways!
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    Post by Samuel Hall Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:48 pm

    Don't carve, it makes off-grid brushes, which makes vis have a heart attack.

    STOP. The charity that is helping to stop VIS heart attacks since 2005.
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:51 pm

    How so? if you align it to the grid it works perfectly...I don't know what your talking about...
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    Post by Chip Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:55 pm

    Carve is baaaddddd, use clip like Chargers showed.


    Also, to fix the little ledge problem, use vertex manipulation to move the corners manually.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J-abnm0Mo8


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    I'll explain the whole carve vs clip thing in a bit.
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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:09 pm

    Chip wrote:Carve is baaaddddd, use clip like Chargers showed.


    Also, to fix the little ledge problem, use vertex manipulation to move the corners manually.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J-abnm0Mo8


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    It's lecture time, guys.

    I'll explain the whole carve vs clip thing in a bit.

    yAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY...ok
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    Post by Chip Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:37 pm

    I was going to make a video but I'll just type it out.

    Most newbies become attached to carve in the beginning because it appears to be the faster of the two, but that really isn't advisable because they both do the same thing, but clip gives better results.

    Carve's method is to cut along each face. This leads to verticies off grid, more brushes than necessary and the brushes cut in a way that is usually undesirable.



    When cutting a doorway with carve, you get this:
    Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) B87176b31ff2b1ce721a3f6298115405

    And with clip:
    Mapping Issue (ground/walkway) 611496bbabf3e66b5ed4334f6c0d8cfc

    Notice that with clip, the walls on either side of the doorway are whole, while with carve the top part is a separate.


    Having the wall one solid piece means that the walls will be easier to work with, and more VVIS friendly.


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    Post by chargers5583 Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:54 pm

    Its ok...I got all day!

    Oh and your avatar freaks me out...
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    Post by Chip Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:57 pm

    chargers5583 wrote:Its ok...I got all day!

    Oh and your avatar freaks me out...

    Huey Lewis.
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    Post by Chip Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:05 pm

    Just edited my post on the last page with the carve thing.
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    Post by DarthRevan Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:23 pm

    ok thx u guys & also were is the clip tool? i can find it >.>

    Also what do u mean VIS? like would that cause lag if i carved? because im trying to make a simple map it turned out pretty good so far but i could use some help on the ramp as so far it came out pretty good but small minor drop off points like in my first picture ALSO! how can i make a 2d/3d skybox? i need help RLY RLY bad on that hahaha i cant seem to find what the tut is saying at all Sad Embarassed anyway thank u guys so much Razz



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    also im uploading the map so u guys can look at it and try and help me or even reupload it with fix's that would be much apreciated also the wall that is just kinda sticking out & has a void to the black space is going to be a tunnel to a second tower

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    LOL! anyway plz ignore the fact i used bricks as the entire map texture lmfao! i was planing on going back and retexturing them
    & could u add a Safe room on the very top of the tower (were there is a big block?) i cant seem to get it right i end up having to load my last save because i mess up! also there is a "Jump" that you have to jump to find a hidden weapon can u tell me if thats TO big for the players to jump?

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    Also.. i know how to do the "NAV" part of the map in L4D as that i found extremely easy!
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    Post by chargers5583 Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:11 am

    Chip wrote:Just edited my post on the last page with the carve thing.
    ok
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    Post by chargers5583 Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:27 am

    Here is my explanation for your problems!

    Make a block like this
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    The red means what side it will cut off. So we have to change it from this
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    To this
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    Then it is nice and perfect!
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    I also recommend you start cleaning up your work because it isn't very neat and tighty and its hard to find here you want to put your block. I fixed up some of the problems in your map. All I need to know is your email!
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    Post by DarthRevan Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:42 am

    email:
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    Thanks & thank you for helping me ^^

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    Post by chargers5583 Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:38 am

    DarthRevan wrote:email:
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    Thanks & thank you for helping me ^^

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